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Daniel Staetsky's avatar

Great analysis. May I humbly add the following nuance that I may be in a unique position to add, in support of your argument ( and challenging Andrews further). The Soviet Union , famously, liberated women and brought them into employment en masse resulting in demographic feminisation of certain professions previously considered masculine ( without , I must add, taking away the prestige associated with those professions). Example? Medicine. Not nursing. Medicine. It became dominated by women, with female/male ratios being 60: 40 , perhaps even 70:30 in places. That did not result in wokism or anything of this kind.

As an aside, but an important one, the Soviet Union never developed a notion of innate equality with respect to abilities. Rather it insisted on equality of opportunity and severed the strong correlation between ability and reward (a sort of non- meritocratic culture). A popular expression that summarised it was the famous: ' From everyone- according to their ability, to everyone- according to their need'.

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Mk's avatar

Excellent piece. It speaks to several of my frustrations with the discourse on the Right in recent years. The Right is still much closer to the truth on these issues than the mainstream, but there's still much room for improvement.

On wokeism not being new, I think there can be a tendency in our spaces to assume that wokeism, or liberalism, or leftism sprung up of the ground at a specific point: 1945, or the 1960s, or the 2010s, depending on who you ask for "when things went wrong". There's a deeper issue we need to seriously grapple with: liberalism (in a broad sense) is what's brought us the material prosperity and freedom of the modern world, but its egalitarian and atomising impulses seem to contain the seeds of its own demise.

I'd even go further back than the early liberal philosophers starting in the 1600s, proto-leftism has happened before. You can find echoes of leftist ideas and values in classical texts from the periods of Greece and Rome's declines. Even further back, it seems to be the case that most ancestral human societies were envious of the successful and engaged in egalitarian levelling (Jeremy Kaufmann on X has discussed this before). Respect for excellence seems to be a rarity among human societies, and in the West we may currently be reverting to the human norm.

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