I've been in academia for ~50 years and I've had a front row seat to its decline. There is no question that the increased representation of women in academia has played a major role in the rise of wokism. This is most easily understood for the reasons outlined by Carl. What surprised (and disappointed) me the most, though, was the extreme deference most males showed to the woke mindset pushed by essentially all of their younger women colleagues. It seems clear that this deference was born out of a lack of principle, poor self esteem, and a pathetic desire to simply "be accepted" by the younger generation. Their calculus was to simply sniff out which way the wind was blowing, and go all in. The faculty from the boomer generation may have once held classical liberal core beliefs, but in the end they abdicated their responsibility, dropped the ball, and had no problem hitching their wagon to the woke train when it rolled through the university.
I personally know a couple (untenured) academic men who wear dangly earings, flood their Instagram accounts with photos of them at drag shows, and who paint their nails, not because they particularly support any of this, but because they are absolutely terrified to be seen as anything other than an "ally". I find it pathetic and disgusting. But these are the kind of men that academia now selects for. Intelligence and ability is far less important than worshiping at the feet of the woke goddess for all your colleagues to see.
are you a koran alone agnostic. lol. the word hijab isn't in the koran either. you do knows muslims extrapolate most of sharia from the koran and sunnah. not much is as clear as 24:2. and even that ayat depends on how you interpret zina. muhammad asad translates it both as fornicatiors and adulterers apparently abrogating rajm for adulterers.
"clearly contradicts" but that is the problem. it is not clear. it is funny, the sahih koran translates zina as [unmarried] adultery. (lol). but muhammad asad translates it as adultery [meaning both fornication and adultery] and almost all the others just as fornication.
[Does this contradict]: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: 'Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." 'Umar added, "Surely Allah's Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him."
[This]: [24.2] (As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
I agree. It's also the only variable that looks like a regression line in the history of wokism in academia especially, and makes sense causally. You can see that dynamic everywhere. There's also a bias toward women that Bo Winegard studied with Cory Clark and it's the most politically invariant bias. That means even dissidents would come up with alternatives to that explanation and I think that's a factor with less causally serious explanations about Marxism and postmodernism being so popular.
I have to disagree with the idea that intelligent people are most drawn to or accepting of "woke". It seems to me that the Left is suffering a massive brain drain as they force out all critical independent thinkers, leaving weak minded cult members. The left has been consistently alienating intelligent potential allies for at least 10 years, creating and empowering massive personalities that rise up against them on podcasts, social media, etc. and dedicate themselves to fighting against the Left.
The "massive personalities" statement was more of a side note or follow up highlighting how the Left alienates potential allies.
It seems that the ideological capture required to be a far left academic also requires a good bit of irrational thinking and disdain for, or eschewing of, logic in order to maintain that position. I would argue that irrational intelligent people are less effective than rational intelligent people, and that rational intelligent people are forced out of the Left. I can't even say that they are moving to the Right, but more likely that they are just politically homeless. As intelligent rational people are forced out of the Left, you are left with a pool of irrational intelligent people who all think the same, and are thus overall less effective at problem solving, understanding different points of view, or just generally acting rationally. So maybe I'm not specifically talking about an "intelligence" brain drain, but instead of a "rationality" drain, which really seems like in the long term would set the far left academic system up for failure.
I'm really just thinking as I type, so I'm sure there are some flaws here.
even bill maher is denouncing wokism and you generally don't get much more liberal then him. i think when a supreme court judge can't define the word 'woman' you will definately loose the rational intelligent people.
Thank you for making the point that in our degenerate matriarchy suffering from dementia, those who prefer Truth, Logic and Morality have been made politically homeless.
As for the "rationality drain" that you mention, could you perhaps mean "folly"?
what do you think of thomas sowell? but he won't be around much longer. have you ever read the book: 'evil geniuses' [not about the IQs of the nazis] by kurt andersen? my socialist cousin gave it to me. this guy thinks the right-wingers, or at least the big business of the right have taken over america since reagan. nothing about wokism be it talks a good bit about all the 'right wing' think tanks that have been set up and funded since the 70s.
When you say "the left", do you just mean unprincipled establishment orthodoxy that opened the way to feminism and its other moral and social diseases?
I really don't care about morality, I don't care what consenting adults do behind closed doors, what body parts they cut off in order to be a more effective cosplayer, or if they shoot heroin. I am far more concerned with academia driving out rational, critical, analytical thinkers who refuse to take on a moronic ideology that should have stayed marginalized in dark back rooms of insignificant and unimportant humanities departments. As you push out the great thinkers who refuse to put up with ideological nonsense, all you are left with are two types of people: Spineless weak-minded and easily manipulated academics, and academics who are absolute sociopaths who will promote whatever toxic ideology that will get them ahead and get them power.
The end result to all this is that science, knowledge, and understanding grinds to a halt as ideological worms and psychopaths are all that will be left in academia, and we are then left in a dark age of moron ideologies, where virtue signalling is more important than learning and discovery.
I know nothing about "fundamental British Values". Moronic ideologies are ones that say "the stiffer the penis and the larger the testicles, the more of a woman a person is".
Wouldn't heroin addicts who are consenting adults committing incest, adultery, fornication and sodomy lead to degeneracy, ever lowering standards of education and behaviour as well as the end of your civilisation?
I don't care about the religious concept of morality. My disinterest in the religious concept of morality is unrelated to my personal concept of morality and is not a reflection of my personal morality.
The Blacks of Africa were first used as “meat slaves” by other blacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Africa (black slave were only worth their weight in “goat” meat) [This precipitated the First White Flight because smarter blacks (the white-progenitors) moved far away from the fast-running human-meat eaters]
Then, the Egyptians/Arabs invented plantations (Zanj in Iraq) and gold mines, so then Black Lives began to Matter (have value above that of a goat). Then, the White Supremacists built bigger plantations in the New World (to build and feed the White Armies and Navies needed to defeat the AntiRacist Islamic State). See also "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md … The White Colonizers out-bid the meat-slave buyers and outbid the Arabs for black slaves (increasing the value of black slaves), which resulted in millions of black slaves being liberated from the meatslave markets, from castration into the brutal Zanj plantations of the Arabs. Uncastrated Blacks employed in America were better fed (with meat) than white slaves in Africa (bread and water only). By the early 1600s the value of a slave delivered into a Carribean plantation was up to 435 pounds of refined sugar (far above the value of a black man’s equivalent weight of goat meat in Africa) Even in the late 1800s, a white (circassian) slave could be purchased for only 20 turkish pounds. Thus, the Transatlantic export of black slaves was the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, which elevated blacks far above the value of meat slaves, or Zanj slaves. But, by the early 1600s, Blacks and other Muslims were sailing to Iceland and England to kidnap and enslave white people [1627 Sack of Iceland, 1631 Sack of Baltimore]. Thus the English had joined the White Slave Race (Saqaliba). Two Hundred Years later, after building up a powerful Navy by extracting the resources of the New World, the Saqaliba (White Slave Race) sent a fleet to bomb the blacks and other Muslims at Algeria. The White Supremacist Fleet of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa) bombed the people of color at Algeria with 50000 rounds of Racist canon Violence, and forced the POCs at Tripoli and Algeria to sign a "No More White Slaves for Blacks/Muslims" Treaty.
I don't see the feminization hypothesis as simply blaming women because it's really how institutions made up of both men and women assimilate to the increased female leadership and influence. I imagine of you tried to analyze wokeness with regression, female participation over time would be the best causal variable, it also is coherent with my own experience. I think just discussing it more would be helpful to shed light on how our society works because our current popular explanations in my opinion are false.
Found almost exclusively at low frequencies in African and African-descendant populations (~4–5%), while practically absent (<0.1%) in European and Asian populations.
Under extreme acute stress (which floods the brain with dopamine), Val carriers maintain optimal prefrontal cortex function [1.3.2, 1.3.6]. They tend to remain cognitively functional under life-or-death pressure ("cool under fire") [1.3.2].
The Trade-Off: In low-stress, everyday environments, baseline prefrontal dopamine is lower, leading on average to slightly reduced working memory, lower attention span, and slower complex cognitive processing compared to Met ("Worrier") carriers.
In behavioral genetics, the terms "Warrior Gene" (referring to the MAOA gene) and the "Warrior vs. Worrier" hypothesis (referring to the COMT gene) are often discussed regarding stress and threat responses
Because males have only one copy, whichever variant (2R, 3R, 4R) they inherit from their mother is fully expressed without a second copy to buffer its effects
Duplication of the MAOA gene locus on the X chromosome is not a normal population trait.
The 3R Variant is the Global & U.S. Majority for Several Demographics:
Asian Americans and African Americans carry a majority of the low-activity 3R allele[5][6].
European Americans are the only large demographic where the high-activity 4R allele is the dominant variant by a 2-to-1 margin[5][6].
The 2R Variant is Geographically Distinct:
The 2R allele—which causes the lowest enzyme expression—is virtually absent in European and Asian descendant populations (<0.1%) but is found in approximately 1 in 20 African Americans (~5%)[5][9].
Rare structural duplications of this region (known clinically as Xp11.22-p11.3 microduplication syndrome) lead to severe neurodevelopmental disorders, speech delays, and intellectual disability[9][11], rather than an adaptive behavioral advantage.
Europe
Light skin pigmentation: Optimizes UV-B absorption to produce adequate Vitamin D in low-sunlight northern latitudes.
Lactase persistence: Allows adults to digest dairy milk throughout life (co-evolved with early dairy farming).
Plant-fat metabolism: Adaptations in the FADS genes to better process plant-based fatty acids after the transition to agriculture.
Asia
High-altitude breathing (Tibetans & Sherpas): Denisovan-inherited EPAS1 gene uses oxygen hyper-efficiently at extreme altitudes without dangerously thickening the blood.
Deep-sea diving (Bajau "Sea Nomads"): Genetically enlarged spleens (PDE10A gene) store a reserve of oxygenated blood for long breath-holding.
Minimal body odor & dry earwax (East Asia): ABCC11 gene mutation disables apocrine sweat gland secretions, an adaptation to ancient cold, dry climates.
Africa
Malaria resistance: Sickle cell trait (HbS), Duffy-negative blood, and G6PD variants prevent malaria parasites (Plasmodium) from hijacking red blood cells.
Rainforest survival (Pygmy groups): Endocrine shifts in the growth-hormone/IGF-1 axis yield smaller brain and body sizes that require fewer calories and navigate dense jungle canopy easily.
Melanin & UV protection: High baseline eumelanin shields skin from intense equatorial sun and prevents UV breakdown of essential folate (Vitamin B9).
Pastoralist milk digestion: Independent mutations in pastoral groups (e.g., Maasai, Fulani) that allow adult lactose digestion, separate from the European mutation.
Americas & Arctic
Arsenic tolerance (Andean populations): AS3MT gene variant allows safe enzymatic breakdown of toxic arsenic found in volcanic groundwater.
Cold & high-fat metabolism (Inuit): Genetic tweaks to fatty acid metabolism allow them to thrive on marine-mammal diets rich in omega-3s while generating core body heat.
Alternative Fueling Rather Than Less Energy (Arctic Adaptation)
Location: The Arctic / Greenland / Northern North America (Inuit populations)
Genetic Difference: CPT1A variant (P479L)
Mechanism: Rather than reducing the calories the brain uses, the Inuit evolved metabolic adaptations to process extremely high-fat, near-zero-carbohydrate diets. The brain’s usual fuel (glucose) is scarce in this diet, so their metabolism efficiently converts fats into ketone bodies to supply the brain’s full caloric needs without inducing hypoglycemia.
Arday and his AntiRacist peers refuse to acknowledge that:
The Blacks of Africa were first used as “meat slaves” by other blacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Africa (black slave were only worth their weight in “goat” meat) [This precipitated the First White Flight because smarter blacks (the white-progenitors) moved far away from the fast-running human-meat eaters]
Then, the Egyptians/Arabs invented plantations (Zanj in Iraq) and gold mines, so then Black Lives began to Matter (have value above that of a goat). Then, the White Supremacists built bigger plantations in the New World (to build and feed the White Armies and Navies needed to defeat the AntiRacist Islamic State). See also "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md … The White Colonizers out-bid the meat-slave buyers and outbid the Arabs for black slaves (increasing the value of black slaves), which resulted in millions of black slaves being liberated from the meatslave markets, from castration into the brutal Zanj plantations of the Arabs. Uncastrated Blacks employed in America were better fed (with meat) than white slaves in Africa (bread and water only). By the early 1600s the value of a slave delivered into a Carribean plantation was up to 435 pounds of refined sugar (far above the value of a black man’s equivalent weight of goat meat in Africa) Even in the late 1800s, a white (circassian) slave could be purchased for only 20 turkish pounds. Thus, the Transatlantic export of black slaves was the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, which elevated blacks far above the value of meat slaves, or Zanj slaves. But, by the early 1600s, Blacks and other Muslims were sailing to Iceland and England to kidnap and enslave white people [1627 Sack of Iceland, 1631 Sack of Baltimore]. Thus the English had joined the White Slave Race (Saqaliba). Two Hundred Years later, after building up a powerful Navy by extracting the resources of the New World, the Saqaliba (White Slave Race) sent a fleet to bomb the blacks and other Muslims at Algeria. The White Supremacist Fleet of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa) bombed the people of color at Algeria with 50000 rounds of Racist canon Violence, and forced the POCs at Tripoli and Algeria to sign a "No More White Slaves for Blacks/Muslims" Treaty.
(I commented here instead of under https://substack.com/home/post/p-144004787 since this is more recent and the IQ-moral worth question was discussed at the end of the pod.)
I think that intelligence only matters instrumentally for moral worth. I.e. IQ is only important in so far as it helps the person improve the well-being of other people, or as far as it furthers human progress, or similar. If you remove these aspects, it becomes much less clear that IQ matters for moral worth.
Thought experiment: Two old men have each decided to retire to their own private islands, to contemplate life and wait for death in solitude. None of them will ever have contact with anyone again. One of the men has an IQ that's thirty points higher than the other. Both set sail to their islands the same day, but both are lost at sea and you only have the resources to try to save one. Your experience with sea rescue tells you that there's a minimal higher chance of rescuing the lower-IQ man (say 80,1% chance that you manages to rescue the lower-IQ man if you try vs 80% chance that you mange to rescue the higher-IQ man if you try). The man you rescue will be grateful but won't rethink his self-imposed exile and he will thus take the next boat to his island. Which one do you try to save?
To me it seems obvious that the moral thing to do is to rescue the lower-IQ man (since the chance is higher) or to toss a coin (since the chances are functionally similar), but I would strongly disagree with anyone who wanted to rescue the higher-IQ man because of his higher IQ.
(You might want to argue that the higher-IQ man statistically has made more contributions to society and thus deserves rescue more: if so assume that the lives of both men have been evaluated in depth by a trusted party which concluded that both men have been equally fairly rewarded and punished for their societal contributions before exile, through the wages of their own labor and through luck.)
Now of course, the example above is contrived (but not unrealistic, exiles and hermits exist and similar situations have likely occurred). Most humans live in society and high IQ is socially beneficial. But I still think the experiment shows that high IQ isn't intrinsically valuable. (But if the IQ of the lower-IQ man becomes too low I can see an argument to save the higher-IQ man, but then I think "low-IQ" is a proxy for some cutoff of autonomy/human-ness. I don't think this argument changes the conclusion for say men with IQ 100 vs IQ 130.)
I think Nathan's premise makes logocla sense, that environmentalism necessitates wokism and it's implied. I think that's analytically true more than it being a practical explanation of how it took over. There I personally think sex differences seems the most causal since the increase in women's influence is so correlated. I like sociobiolgy to explain things and tracks with my experience. At any rate they are compatible and much better than the popular story of magic postmodern texts triggering a mind virus.
I'm still inclined to think that wokeness is mainly caused by overcorrection (rather than "taking the equality thesis seriously"): people turned from persecuting certain groups to privileging them instead.
Arday and his AntiRacist peers refuse to acknowledge that:
The Blacks of Africa were first used as “meat slaves” by other blacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Africa (black slave were only worth their weight in “goat” meat) [This precipitated the First White Flight because smarter blacks (the white-progenitors) moved far away from the fast-running human-meat eaters]
Then, the Egyptians/Arabs invented plantations (Zanj in Iraq) and gold mines, so then Black Lives began to Matter (have value above that of a goat). Then, the White Supremacists built bigger plantations in the New World (to build and feed the White Armies and Navies needed to defeat the AntiRacist Islamic State). See also "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md … The White Colonizers out-bid the meat-slave buyers and outbid the Arabs for black slaves (increasing the value of black slaves), which resulted in millions of black slaves being liberated from the meatslave markets, from castration into the brutal Zanj plantations of the Arabs. Uncastrated Blacks employed in America were better fed (with meat) than white slaves in Africa (bread and water only). By the early 1600s the value of a slave delivered into a Carribean plantation was up to 435 pounds of refined sugar (far above the value of a black man’s equivalent weight of goat meat in Africa) Even in the late 1800s, a white (circassian) slave could be purchased for only 20 turkish pounds. Thus, the Transatlantic export of black slaves was the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, which elevated blacks far above the value of meat slaves, or Zanj slaves. But, by the early 1600s, Blacks and other Muslims were sailing to Iceland and England to kidnap and enslave white people [1627 Sack of Iceland, 1631 Sack of Baltimore]. Thus the English had joined the White Slave Race (Saqaliba). Two Hundred Years later, after building up a powerful Navy by extracting the resources of the New World, the Saqaliba (White Slave Race) sent a fleet to bomb the blacks and other Muslims at Algeria. The White Supremacist Fleet of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa) bombed the people of color at Algeria with 50000 rounds of Racist canon Violence, and forced the POCs at Tripoli and Algeria to sign a "No More White Slaves for Blacks/Muslims" Treaty.
You and Noah speculate as to why women in academia, journalism, etc. are disproportionately more woke compared to men. What would your reply be if someone countered that it’s not due to sex differences but something more akin to a “default hypothesis” for women?
On my account, wokism is what follows from taking the equality thesis seriously. The feminization of the institutions is a separate phenomenon, though it influences the form that wokism takes.
Perhaps the default assumption should be that women will be more attracted to wokism with respect to sex (i.e., sex disparities favoring men must be corrected). But self-interest doesn't explain their wokism with respect to race.
There are clear parallels between cancel culture and traditional female culture, which is characterized by reputational attack and social ostracism over physical confrontation, and places a great deal of value on empathy and caring. So it's no surprise that women will be somewhat more inclined to participate in it. Cancel culture acts in the service of the dominant ideology, which happens to be wokism.
Wouldn't it not be self-interest, but altruism? So personality differences between the sexes that make narratives about victimization and privilege attractive to women much more so than men. So those ideas are "female coded" because of altruism and may or may not involve benefits to them.
I agree with you but I could imagine a cheeky person asking why we can’t just ignore your answer above and, instead, just explain disproportionate woke women as due to them having above average IQs like many of their woke male counterparts?
"White" (Saqaliba = White Slave in Islam) was orginally a product description in the Slave Markets of the Islamic State, hundreds of years before the English Declared in in 1705 Virginia legislation that Blacks and Muslims are forbidden to own "White" Slaves (of a different "complexion"). This White Privilege legislation allowed English Colonies in America to become a Refuge for all "White" people (e.g., English, Scots, Irish, Dutch, German, French, Spaniards ... fleeing from centuries of Predation by Blacks and other Muslims (who by 1627 had sailed up to Iceland to kidnap and enslave the entire island's white population into North Africa [And in 1631 Blacks and other Muslims sailed to Baltimore Ireland and kidnapped and enslaved the entire village, hundreds of white English people).
The 1400 years of Islamic Predations by Blacks and other Muslims upon "White" prey did not end until the Europeans established the "White Crusade" (The Crusade of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa" blessed by the Pope in 1816) inspired by the 1815 bombing of Algeria by the Racist White Supremacist US Presidents to Free the White Slaves. The "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa" under the command of Lord Exmouth (Edward Pellew, whose ancestor Thomas Pellow had been a white slave in North Africa) who bombed the Capitol of the AntiRacist Islamic State at Algeria with 50,000 rounds of White Supremacist canon violence, forcing the AntiRacists to sign "No More White Slaves for Muslims" (White Privilege) Treaties.
"Free Palestine" means "ReOpen the AntiRacist Islamic Slave Markets in Palestine"
Fawzia Amin Sido, a 21-year-old Yazidi woman enslaved by ISIS at age 11 and later trafficked to Gaza, was rescued in October 2024 through a coordinated secret operation involving the United States, Israel, Jordan, and Iraq.
No, I meant why can’t we use the default hypothesis of high IQ that Cofnas applied to Jews to explain their disproportionate leftism/Wokeism to apply to women in academia, journalism, etc. as well?
1:36:00 Your moral worth is linked to your adherence to your moral principles and this assessment would be made by members of your religious group or political party.
I've been in academia for ~50 years and I've had a front row seat to its decline. There is no question that the increased representation of women in academia has played a major role in the rise of wokism. This is most easily understood for the reasons outlined by Carl. What surprised (and disappointed) me the most, though, was the extreme deference most males showed to the woke mindset pushed by essentially all of their younger women colleagues. It seems clear that this deference was born out of a lack of principle, poor self esteem, and a pathetic desire to simply "be accepted" by the younger generation. Their calculus was to simply sniff out which way the wind was blowing, and go all in. The faculty from the boomer generation may have once held classical liberal core beliefs, but in the end they abdicated their responsibility, dropped the ball, and had no problem hitching their wagon to the woke train when it rolled through the university.
I personally know a couple (untenured) academic men who wear dangly earings, flood their Instagram accounts with photos of them at drag shows, and who paint their nails, not because they particularly support any of this, but because they are absolutely terrified to be seen as anything other than an "ally". I find it pathetic and disgusting. But these are the kind of men that academia now selects for. Intelligence and ability is far less important than worshiping at the feet of the woke goddess for all your colleagues to see.
No question that virtue signaling has become a real "thing" for the left. I suspect that the prevalence of social media has really amplified it.
Don't say "Wokism", say "State-Sponsored Degeneracy".
luke is talking about loneliness is a huge problem. that it is a national security problem.
Are you referring to Luke Ford? Lonely men are desperate men. That is why they state should support marriage.
what did you think of the pakistanis beating the guy to death on friday for blasphemy?
The Koran doesn’t even mention blasphemy.
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/14305/it-is-essential-to-respond-to-those-who-defame-the-prophet-peace-and-blessings-of-allaah-be-upon-him
There is no verse in the Koran that mentions blasphemy. quran.com/2/256 supports the First Amendment.
can't blasphemy be considered 'spreading corruption'?
are you a koran alone agnostic. lol. the word hijab isn't in the koran either. you do knows muslims extrapolate most of sharia from the koran and sunnah. not much is as clear as 24:2. and even that ayat depends on how you interpret zina. muhammad asad translates it both as fornicatiors and adulterers apparently abrogating rajm for adulterers.
I reject the Hadith where it clearly contradicts the Koran.
"clearly contradicts" but that is the problem. it is not clear. it is funny, the sahih koran translates zina as [unmarried] adultery. (lol). but muhammad asad translates it as adultery [meaning both fornication and adultery] and almost all the others just as fornication.
[Does this contradict]: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: 'Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." 'Umar added, "Surely Allah's Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him."
[This]: [24.2] (As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
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I agree. It's also the only variable that looks like a regression line in the history of wokism in academia especially, and makes sense causally. You can see that dynamic everywhere. There's also a bias toward women that Bo Winegard studied with Cory Clark and it's the most politically invariant bias. That means even dissidents would come up with alternatives to that explanation and I think that's a factor with less causally serious explanations about Marxism and postmodernism being so popular.
I have to disagree with the idea that intelligent people are most drawn to or accepting of "woke". It seems to me that the Left is suffering a massive brain drain as they force out all critical independent thinkers, leaving weak minded cult members. The left has been consistently alienating intelligent potential allies for at least 10 years, creating and empowering massive personalities that rise up against them on podcasts, social media, etc. and dedicate themselves to fighting against the Left.
"Massive personalities" like Bret Weinstein, Candace Owens, and the n-word girl? I discuss several lines of evidence that intellectual elites overwhelming lean left/woke: https://ncofnas.com/p/why-we-need-to-talk-about-the-rights
The "massive personalities" statement was more of a side note or follow up highlighting how the Left alienates potential allies.
It seems that the ideological capture required to be a far left academic also requires a good bit of irrational thinking and disdain for, or eschewing of, logic in order to maintain that position. I would argue that irrational intelligent people are less effective than rational intelligent people, and that rational intelligent people are forced out of the Left. I can't even say that they are moving to the Right, but more likely that they are just politically homeless. As intelligent rational people are forced out of the Left, you are left with a pool of irrational intelligent people who all think the same, and are thus overall less effective at problem solving, understanding different points of view, or just generally acting rationally. So maybe I'm not specifically talking about an "intelligence" brain drain, but instead of a "rationality" drain, which really seems like in the long term would set the far left academic system up for failure.
I'm really just thinking as I type, so I'm sure there are some flaws here.
even bill maher is denouncing wokism and you generally don't get much more liberal then him. i think when a supreme court judge can't define the word 'woman' you will definately loose the rational intelligent people.
Thank you for making the point that in our degenerate matriarchy suffering from dementia, those who prefer Truth, Logic and Morality have been made politically homeless.
As for the "rationality drain" that you mention, could you perhaps mean "folly"?
what do you think of thomas sowell? but he won't be around much longer. have you ever read the book: 'evil geniuses' [not about the IQs of the nazis] by kurt andersen? my socialist cousin gave it to me. this guy thinks the right-wingers, or at least the big business of the right have taken over america since reagan. nothing about wokism be it talks a good bit about all the 'right wing' think tanks that have been set up and funded since the 70s.
When you say "the left", do you just mean unprincipled establishment orthodoxy that opened the way to feminism and its other moral and social diseases?
I really don't care about morality, I don't care what consenting adults do behind closed doors, what body parts they cut off in order to be a more effective cosplayer, or if they shoot heroin. I am far more concerned with academia driving out rational, critical, analytical thinkers who refuse to take on a moronic ideology that should have stayed marginalized in dark back rooms of insignificant and unimportant humanities departments. As you push out the great thinkers who refuse to put up with ideological nonsense, all you are left with are two types of people: Spineless weak-minded and easily manipulated academics, and academics who are absolute sociopaths who will promote whatever toxic ideology that will get them ahead and get them power.
The end result to all this is that science, knowledge, and understanding grinds to a halt as ideological worms and psychopaths are all that will be left in academia, and we are then left in a dark age of moron ideologies, where virtue signalling is more important than learning and discovery.
When you say "moronic ideology", do you mean "fundamental British values"?
I know nothing about "fundamental British Values". Moronic ideologies are ones that say "the stiffer the penis and the larger the testicles, the more of a woman a person is".
The official religion of the British is no longer Anglicanism but "fundamental British values".
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/guidance-on-promoting-british-values-in-schools-published
Wouldn't heroin addicts who are consenting adults committing incest, adultery, fornication and sodomy lead to degeneracy, ever lowering standards of education and behaviour as well as the end of your civilisation?
You are choosing to ignore what I wrote and inventing your own categories to fit your narrative.
I have acknowledged what you are saying without accepting your premises.
Is a person who says he does not care about morality an immoral person or an amoral person?
I don't care about the religious concept of morality. My disinterest in the religious concept of morality is unrelated to my personal concept of morality and is not a reflection of my personal morality.
Do you have any moral principles?
"Wokism" will not be put away until we outgrow the myths of "Martin Luther King" and the "Civil Rights Act".
what myths do you speak or?
Sharia would easily deal with feminism. Call things by their known names instead of using neologisms and confusing people.
claire are you familar with the term mukhannath?
I had to look it up to refresh my memory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhannath
so much for calling a man a man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA9BwA4uO1o
For practical purposes, the overwhelming majority of humanity are recognisably male or female.
true. but laws and morality often deals with the anomalies. under your sharia would women be allowed to wear pants?
The problem there our entire culture is base upon the 1964 Civil Rights Mandate as the central point of history.
See "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md
The Blacks of Africa were first used as “meat slaves” by other blacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Africa (black slave were only worth their weight in “goat” meat) [This precipitated the First White Flight because smarter blacks (the white-progenitors) moved far away from the fast-running human-meat eaters]
Then, the Egyptians/Arabs invented plantations (Zanj in Iraq) and gold mines, so then Black Lives began to Matter (have value above that of a goat). Then, the White Supremacists built bigger plantations in the New World (to build and feed the White Armies and Navies needed to defeat the AntiRacist Islamic State). See also "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md … The White Colonizers out-bid the meat-slave buyers and outbid the Arabs for black slaves (increasing the value of black slaves), which resulted in millions of black slaves being liberated from the meatslave markets, from castration into the brutal Zanj plantations of the Arabs. Uncastrated Blacks employed in America were better fed (with meat) than white slaves in Africa (bread and water only). By the early 1600s the value of a slave delivered into a Carribean plantation was up to 435 pounds of refined sugar (far above the value of a black man’s equivalent weight of goat meat in Africa) Even in the late 1800s, a white (circassian) slave could be purchased for only 20 turkish pounds. Thus, the Transatlantic export of black slaves was the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, which elevated blacks far above the value of meat slaves, or Zanj slaves. But, by the early 1600s, Blacks and other Muslims were sailing to Iceland and England to kidnap and enslave white people [1627 Sack of Iceland, 1631 Sack of Baltimore]. Thus the English had joined the White Slave Race (Saqaliba). Two Hundred Years later, after building up a powerful Navy by extracting the resources of the New World, the Saqaliba (White Slave Race) sent a fleet to bomb the blacks and other Muslims at Algeria. The White Supremacist Fleet of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa) bombed the people of color at Algeria with 50000 rounds of Racist canon Violence, and forced the POCs at Tripoli and Algeria to sign a "No More White Slaves for Blacks/Muslims" Treaty.
I don't see the feminization hypothesis as simply blaming women because it's really how institutions made up of both men and women assimilate to the increased female leadership and influence. I imagine of you tried to analyze wokeness with regression, female participation over time would be the best causal variable, it also is coherent with my own experience. I think just discussing it more would be helpful to shed light on how our society works because our current popular explanations in my opinion are false.
Quote: "African Americans are the same"
Quote: "Disprove the Equality Thesis"
The MAOA Gene (Monoamine Oxidase A)
Found almost exclusively at low frequencies in African and African-descendant populations (~4–5%), while practically absent (<0.1%) in European and Asian populations.
Under extreme acute stress (which floods the brain with dopamine), Val carriers maintain optimal prefrontal cortex function [1.3.2, 1.3.6]. They tend to remain cognitively functional under life-or-death pressure ("cool under fire") [1.3.2].
The Trade-Off: In low-stress, everyday environments, baseline prefrontal dopamine is lower, leading on average to slightly reduced working memory, lower attention span, and slower complex cognitive processing compared to Met ("Worrier") carriers.
In behavioral genetics, the terms "Warrior Gene" (referring to the MAOA gene) and the "Warrior vs. Worrier" hypothesis (referring to the COMT gene) are often discussed regarding stress and threat responses
Because males have only one copy, whichever variant (2R, 3R, 4R) they inherit from their mother is fully expressed without a second copy to buffer its effects
Duplication of the MAOA gene locus on the X chromosome is not a normal population trait.
The 3R Variant is the Global & U.S. Majority for Several Demographics:
Asian Americans and African Americans carry a majority of the low-activity 3R allele[5][6].
European Americans are the only large demographic where the high-activity 4R allele is the dominant variant by a 2-to-1 margin[5][6].
The 2R Variant is Geographically Distinct:
The 2R allele—which causes the lowest enzyme expression—is virtually absent in European and Asian descendant populations (<0.1%) but is found in approximately 1 in 20 African Americans (~5%)[5][9].
Rare structural duplications of this region (known clinically as Xp11.22-p11.3 microduplication syndrome) lead to severe neurodevelopmental disorders, speech delays, and intellectual disability[9][11], rather than an adaptive behavioral advantage.
Europe
Light skin pigmentation: Optimizes UV-B absorption to produce adequate Vitamin D in low-sunlight northern latitudes.
Lactase persistence: Allows adults to digest dairy milk throughout life (co-evolved with early dairy farming).
Plant-fat metabolism: Adaptations in the FADS genes to better process plant-based fatty acids after the transition to agriculture.
Asia
High-altitude breathing (Tibetans & Sherpas): Denisovan-inherited EPAS1 gene uses oxygen hyper-efficiently at extreme altitudes without dangerously thickening the blood.
Deep-sea diving (Bajau "Sea Nomads"): Genetically enlarged spleens (PDE10A gene) store a reserve of oxygenated blood for long breath-holding.
Minimal body odor & dry earwax (East Asia): ABCC11 gene mutation disables apocrine sweat gland secretions, an adaptation to ancient cold, dry climates.
Africa
Malaria resistance: Sickle cell trait (HbS), Duffy-negative blood, and G6PD variants prevent malaria parasites (Plasmodium) from hijacking red blood cells.
Sleeping sickness resistance: APOL1 gene mutations lyse and kill African trypanosome parasites.
Rainforest survival (Pygmy groups): Endocrine shifts in the growth-hormone/IGF-1 axis yield smaller brain and body sizes that require fewer calories and navigate dense jungle canopy easily.
Melanin & UV protection: High baseline eumelanin shields skin from intense equatorial sun and prevents UV breakdown of essential folate (Vitamin B9).
Pastoralist milk digestion: Independent mutations in pastoral groups (e.g., Maasai, Fulani) that allow adult lactose digestion, separate from the European mutation.
Americas & Arctic
Arsenic tolerance (Andean populations): AS3MT gene variant allows safe enzymatic breakdown of toxic arsenic found in volcanic groundwater.
Cold & high-fat metabolism (Inuit): Genetic tweaks to fatty acid metabolism allow them to thrive on marine-mammal diets rich in omega-3s while generating core body heat.
Alternative Fueling Rather Than Less Energy (Arctic Adaptation)
Location: The Arctic / Greenland / Northern North America (Inuit populations)
Genetic Difference: CPT1A variant (P479L)
Mechanism: Rather than reducing the calories the brain uses, the Inuit evolved metabolic adaptations to process extremely high-fat, near-zero-carbohydrate diets. The brain’s usual fuel (glucose) is scarce in this diet, so their metabolism efficiently converts fats into ketone bodies to supply the brain’s full caloric needs without inducing hypoglycemia.
Hey cough now I read this thing https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06784-5 this article is straight up copying how dare it yes how dare the day to not fit progressive ideals how dare you
Genetic determinism rides again
Nathaniel Comfort questions a psychologist’s troubling claims about genes and behaviour.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06784-5
Arday and his AntiRacist peers refuse to acknowledge that:
The Blacks of Africa were first used as “meat slaves” by other blacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Africa (black slave were only worth their weight in “goat” meat) [This precipitated the First White Flight because smarter blacks (the white-progenitors) moved far away from the fast-running human-meat eaters]
Then, the Egyptians/Arabs invented plantations (Zanj in Iraq) and gold mines, so then Black Lives began to Matter (have value above that of a goat). Then, the White Supremacists built bigger plantations in the New World (to build and feed the White Armies and Navies needed to defeat the AntiRacist Islamic State). See also "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md … The White Colonizers out-bid the meat-slave buyers and outbid the Arabs for black slaves (increasing the value of black slaves), which resulted in millions of black slaves being liberated from the meatslave markets, from castration into the brutal Zanj plantations of the Arabs. Uncastrated Blacks employed in America were better fed (with meat) than white slaves in Africa (bread and water only). By the early 1600s the value of a slave delivered into a Carribean plantation was up to 435 pounds of refined sugar (far above the value of a black man’s equivalent weight of goat meat in Africa) Even in the late 1800s, a white (circassian) slave could be purchased for only 20 turkish pounds. Thus, the Transatlantic export of black slaves was the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, which elevated blacks far above the value of meat slaves, or Zanj slaves. But, by the early 1600s, Blacks and other Muslims were sailing to Iceland and England to kidnap and enslave white people [1627 Sack of Iceland, 1631 Sack of Baltimore]. Thus the English had joined the White Slave Race (Saqaliba). Two Hundred Years later, after building up a powerful Navy by extracting the resources of the New World, the Saqaliba (White Slave Race) sent a fleet to bomb the blacks and other Muslims at Algeria. The White Supremacist Fleet of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa) bombed the people of color at Algeria with 50000 rounds of Racist canon Violence, and forced the POCs at Tripoli and Algeria to sign a "No More White Slaves for Blacks/Muslims" Treaty.
See "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md
(I commented here instead of under https://substack.com/home/post/p-144004787 since this is more recent and the IQ-moral worth question was discussed at the end of the pod.)
I think that intelligence only matters instrumentally for moral worth. I.e. IQ is only important in so far as it helps the person improve the well-being of other people, or as far as it furthers human progress, or similar. If you remove these aspects, it becomes much less clear that IQ matters for moral worth.
Thought experiment: Two old men have each decided to retire to their own private islands, to contemplate life and wait for death in solitude. None of them will ever have contact with anyone again. One of the men has an IQ that's thirty points higher than the other. Both set sail to their islands the same day, but both are lost at sea and you only have the resources to try to save one. Your experience with sea rescue tells you that there's a minimal higher chance of rescuing the lower-IQ man (say 80,1% chance that you manages to rescue the lower-IQ man if you try vs 80% chance that you mange to rescue the higher-IQ man if you try). The man you rescue will be grateful but won't rethink his self-imposed exile and he will thus take the next boat to his island. Which one do you try to save?
To me it seems obvious that the moral thing to do is to rescue the lower-IQ man (since the chance is higher) or to toss a coin (since the chances are functionally similar), but I would strongly disagree with anyone who wanted to rescue the higher-IQ man because of his higher IQ.
(You might want to argue that the higher-IQ man statistically has made more contributions to society and thus deserves rescue more: if so assume that the lives of both men have been evaluated in depth by a trusted party which concluded that both men have been equally fairly rewarded and punished for their societal contributions before exile, through the wages of their own labor and through luck.)
Now of course, the example above is contrived (but not unrealistic, exiles and hermits exist and similar situations have likely occurred). Most humans live in society and high IQ is socially beneficial. But I still think the experiment shows that high IQ isn't intrinsically valuable. (But if the IQ of the lower-IQ man becomes too low I can see an argument to save the higher-IQ man, but then I think "low-IQ" is a proxy for some cutoff of autonomy/human-ness. I don't think this argument changes the conclusion for say men with IQ 100 vs IQ 130.)
I think Nathan's premise makes logocla sense, that environmentalism necessitates wokism and it's implied. I think that's analytically true more than it being a practical explanation of how it took over. There I personally think sex differences seems the most causal since the increase in women's influence is so correlated. I like sociobiolgy to explain things and tracks with my experience. At any rate they are compatible and much better than the popular story of magic postmodern texts triggering a mind virus.
I'm still inclined to think that wokeness is mainly caused by overcorrection (rather than "taking the equality thesis seriously"): people turned from persecuting certain groups to privileging them instead.
https://jclester.substack.com/p/woke-a-libertarian-viewpoint?utm_source=publication-search
Arday and his AntiRacist peers refuse to acknowledge that:
The Blacks of Africa were first used as “meat slaves” by other blacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Africa (black slave were only worth their weight in “goat” meat) [This precipitated the First White Flight because smarter blacks (the white-progenitors) moved far away from the fast-running human-meat eaters]
Then, the Egyptians/Arabs invented plantations (Zanj in Iraq) and gold mines, so then Black Lives began to Matter (have value above that of a goat). Then, the White Supremacists built bigger plantations in the New World (to build and feed the White Armies and Navies needed to defeat the AntiRacist Islamic State). See also "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md … The White Colonizers out-bid the meat-slave buyers and outbid the Arabs for black slaves (increasing the value of black slaves), which resulted in millions of black slaves being liberated from the meatslave markets, from castration into the brutal Zanj plantations of the Arabs. Uncastrated Blacks employed in America were better fed (with meat) than white slaves in Africa (bread and water only). By the early 1600s the value of a slave delivered into a Carribean plantation was up to 435 pounds of refined sugar (far above the value of a black man’s equivalent weight of goat meat in Africa) Even in the late 1800s, a white (circassian) slave could be purchased for only 20 turkish pounds. Thus, the Transatlantic export of black slaves was the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, which elevated blacks far above the value of meat slaves, or Zanj slaves. But, by the early 1600s, Blacks and other Muslims were sailing to Iceland and England to kidnap and enslave white people [1627 Sack of Iceland, 1631 Sack of Baltimore]. Thus the English had joined the White Slave Race (Saqaliba). Two Hundred Years later, after building up a powerful Navy by extracting the resources of the New World, the Saqaliba (White Slave Race) sent a fleet to bomb the blacks and other Muslims at Algeria. The White Supremacist Fleet of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa) bombed the people of color at Algeria with 50000 rounds of Racist canon Violence, and forced the POCs at Tripoli and Algeria to sign a "No More White Slaves for Blacks/Muslims" Treaty.
See "The History of White Warfare Against AntiRacist Islamic Enslavement of White People" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5WYp5xmvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w568RWb8CB4
You and Noah speculate as to why women in academia, journalism, etc. are disproportionately more woke compared to men. What would your reply be if someone countered that it’s not due to sex differences but something more akin to a “default hypothesis” for women?
On my account, wokism is what follows from taking the equality thesis seriously. The feminization of the institutions is a separate phenomenon, though it influences the form that wokism takes.
Perhaps the default assumption should be that women will be more attracted to wokism with respect to sex (i.e., sex disparities favoring men must be corrected). But self-interest doesn't explain their wokism with respect to race.
There are clear parallels between cancel culture and traditional female culture, which is characterized by reputational attack and social ostracism over physical confrontation, and places a great deal of value on empathy and caring. So it's no surprise that women will be somewhat more inclined to participate in it. Cancel culture acts in the service of the dominant ideology, which happens to be wokism.
Wouldn't it not be self-interest, but altruism? So personality differences between the sexes that make narratives about victimization and privilege attractive to women much more so than men. So those ideas are "female coded" because of altruism and may or may not involve benefits to them.
I agree with you but I could imagine a cheeky person asking why we can’t just ignore your answer above and, instead, just explain disproportionate woke women as due to them having above average IQs like many of their woke male counterparts?
Should wokism be called "state-sponsored degeneracy" to dignify this mortal moral disease with a proper name?
"White" (Saqaliba = White Slave in Islam) was orginally a product description in the Slave Markets of the Islamic State, hundreds of years before the English Declared in in 1705 Virginia legislation that Blacks and Muslims are forbidden to own "White" Slaves (of a different "complexion"). This White Privilege legislation allowed English Colonies in America to become a Refuge for all "White" people (e.g., English, Scots, Irish, Dutch, German, French, Spaniards ... fleeing from centuries of Predation by Blacks and other Muslims (who by 1627 had sailed up to Iceland to kidnap and enslave the entire island's white population into North Africa [And in 1631 Blacks and other Muslims sailed to Baltimore Ireland and kidnapped and enslaved the entire village, hundreds of white English people).
See "The History of White Warfare Against Enslavement" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.md
The 1400 years of Islamic Predations by Blacks and other Muslims upon "White" prey did not end until the Europeans established the "White Crusade" (The Crusade of the "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa" blessed by the Pope in 1816) inspired by the 1815 bombing of Algeria by the Racist White Supremacist US Presidents to Free the White Slaves. The "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa" under the command of Lord Exmouth (Edward Pellew, whose ancestor Thomas Pellow had been a white slave in North Africa) who bombed the Capitol of the AntiRacist Islamic State at Algeria with 50,000 rounds of White Supremacist canon violence, forcing the AntiRacists to sign "No More White Slaves for Muslims" (White Privilege) Treaties.
"Free Palestine" means "ReOpen the AntiRacist Islamic Slave Markets in Palestine"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Palestine
A blonde yazidi woman enslaved in Gaza was freed by Israel in 2024.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpw5v077nyjo
Fawzia Amin Sido, a 21-year-old Yazidi woman enslaved by ISIS at age 11 and later trafficked to Gaza, was rescued in October 2024 through a coordinated secret operation involving the United States, Israel, Jordan, and Iraq.
When you say default hypothesis, do you mean women instinctively and unquestioningly submitting to the current political orthodoxy, whatever that is?
No, I meant why can’t we use the default hypothesis of high IQ that Cofnas applied to Jews to explain their disproportionate leftism/Wokeism to apply to women in academia, journalism, etc. as well?
Are you saying Jews just take liberal ideas further than liberal gentiles?
1:36:00 Your moral worth is linked to your adherence to your moral principles and this assessment would be made by members of your religious group or political party.
1:32:00 Nathan proudly displays his atheism, but atheism is exactly the problem, and I speak as an agnostic.
1:31:00 God if He exists would value obedience, belief, faith and God consciousness.