It's nice to hear that you both voted for Trump three times in a row and do not, apparently, regret this or consider it a mistake (in contrast to what one hears from certain other corners). That deserves some respect.
Amy's total lack of understanding of how things actualy work is profound. For instance, learning the auto mechanic trade is is generally acheived through work/internship experience, so one gets paid to learn, not at $30,000/year payment. Is she surprised that the trade school infrastucture isn't designed to cater to the needs of dudes in their 70's? That's a real underserved cohert that needs to be addressed. Glad she identified that for me. And while someone can choose to attend a trade school that is that expensive, just like you can pay Harvard tuition or attend a public university at 20% of the cost, you can go to a community college and get the same mechanic's certification. All in (tuition, books, fees, etc.), the two-year AA degree at the local school by me is $5092. On top of that. there's plenty of scholarships and financial aid. She needs to give her husband a link to 'google.' She spews nonsense, I suppose, believing that because she has a pile of fancy degrees that no one will question her. One more point, she sees herself as some sort of protector of the 'working class' (or as she refers to them as "these people'') maybe ought not have a sign that speaks to her disdain of inexpenisve wine in the background while advocating. I'm certainly no expert in any of the topics she's rambling on about, but even I can recognize how grossly uninformed (disingenuous?) she is. I like your shows, Dr. Cofnas, but this interviewee was not worthy of the attention you gave her.
Nathan: She's inconsiderate in her frequent aggressive interruptions which devolve into stream-of-consciousness, and you're too conversationally tolerant. See, e.g., 34:30.
BTW, in my stereo audio, when she switched to iPhone near the beginning she was on the left side only, while you continued to be in the middle. Here "left" and "middle" are stereophonic, not political, terms.
I like Amy Wax, but this is disappointing. Amy Wax thinks that white men feel neglected. Okay, will a trade war make them feel better? So, according to her, it's expensive to get trained to be an auto-mechanic. How will smashing Harvard help that problem? Housing is expensive. Got it - but since states and localities control almost all housing regulations, it's not clear what this has to do with Trump. There's a strange misalignment between Wax's complaints and what Trump is actually doing.
The best part imo, was the end talking about the specific policies of tariffs, if effective, and what values to subsidize. I'd like to hear more discussions on this. Maybe have a debate with some economist who agrees with tariffs, or have another debate on what values to subsidize
Cofnas is smart and articulate at identifying the problems, but idk why he can't see how unlikely his plan ( the right should be like the left but racist ) is to get people onboard. At first i assumed he didn't really believe his approach is efficient but he just wanted to be edgy and attract an audience. Seemingly that is not the case, he is willing to criticise Trump and talk about other stuff as well( like tariffs) . There are a lof of people on the left in powerful positions that already have doubts about blank slatism but not care enough to support any policy around it . It is better to adopt a more effective and broader approach
There's only four years. The beginning of a monumental task. Does Harvard deserve finesse? Amy is right to criticise the callous indifference to the working class, who happen to be repsented by white males at present. But in an increasingly cognitive environment this invisibility can only become wider and more consequential.
I agree with Amy. The tariffs are primarily a bargaining chip. We have to have leverage to get the EU and China to drop their tariffs. My prediction is that at the end of the day tariffs will be minimal to non-existent. Once the trade playing-field is level, US manufacturing will be on better footing and the folks you seem to despise (who made it possible to elect Trump) will be rewarded... as they should be.
If tariffs are bad, why is it okay for the EU and China to impose them? The question of why we should tolerate this was never answered...
I think I would feel better about what’s happening if there was some sort of written plan the Trump admin was working off of. What’s happening seems to be totally random.
It's nice to hear that you both voted for Trump three times in a row and do not, apparently, regret this or consider it a mistake (in contrast to what one hears from certain other corners). That deserves some respect.
Amy's total lack of understanding of how things actualy work is profound. For instance, learning the auto mechanic trade is is generally acheived through work/internship experience, so one gets paid to learn, not at $30,000/year payment. Is she surprised that the trade school infrastucture isn't designed to cater to the needs of dudes in their 70's? That's a real underserved cohert that needs to be addressed. Glad she identified that for me. And while someone can choose to attend a trade school that is that expensive, just like you can pay Harvard tuition or attend a public university at 20% of the cost, you can go to a community college and get the same mechanic's certification. All in (tuition, books, fees, etc.), the two-year AA degree at the local school by me is $5092. On top of that. there's plenty of scholarships and financial aid. She needs to give her husband a link to 'google.' She spews nonsense, I suppose, believing that because she has a pile of fancy degrees that no one will question her. One more point, she sees herself as some sort of protector of the 'working class' (or as she refers to them as "these people'') maybe ought not have a sign that speaks to her disdain of inexpenisve wine in the background while advocating. I'm certainly no expert in any of the topics she's rambling on about, but even I can recognize how grossly uninformed (disingenuous?) she is. I like your shows, Dr. Cofnas, but this interviewee was not worthy of the attention you gave her.
Nathan: She's inconsiderate in her frequent aggressive interruptions which devolve into stream-of-consciousness, and you're too conversationally tolerant. See, e.g., 34:30.
BTW, in my stereo audio, when she switched to iPhone near the beginning she was on the left side only, while you continued to be in the middle. Here "left" and "middle" are stereophonic, not political, terms.
I like Amy Wax, but this is disappointing. Amy Wax thinks that white men feel neglected. Okay, will a trade war make them feel better? So, according to her, it's expensive to get trained to be an auto-mechanic. How will smashing Harvard help that problem? Housing is expensive. Got it - but since states and localities control almost all housing regulations, it's not clear what this has to do with Trump. There's a strange misalignment between Wax's complaints and what Trump is actually doing.
The best part imo, was the end talking about the specific policies of tariffs, if effective, and what values to subsidize. I'd like to hear more discussions on this. Maybe have a debate with some economist who agrees with tariffs, or have another debate on what values to subsidize
Very sad. This is the level of motivated reasoning needed to defend Trumpism
Cofnas is smart and articulate at identifying the problems, but idk why he can't see how unlikely his plan ( the right should be like the left but racist ) is to get people onboard. At first i assumed he didn't really believe his approach is efficient but he just wanted to be edgy and attract an audience. Seemingly that is not the case, he is willing to criticise Trump and talk about other stuff as well( like tariffs) . There are a lof of people on the left in powerful positions that already have doubts about blank slatism but not care enough to support any policy around it . It is better to adopt a more effective and broader approach
There's only four years. The beginning of a monumental task. Does Harvard deserve finesse? Amy is right to criticise the callous indifference to the working class, who happen to be repsented by white males at present. But in an increasingly cognitive environment this invisibility can only become wider and more consequential.
I'm not on board with this economic analysis focused cheap goods vs the 70s.
Why couldn't two such logical people reach agreement on such obvious points? Remarkable!
Amy Wax is just wonderful!
My conclusion from this discussion: we have before us un sac de cul.
I agree with Amy. The tariffs are primarily a bargaining chip. We have to have leverage to get the EU and China to drop their tariffs. My prediction is that at the end of the day tariffs will be minimal to non-existent. Once the trade playing-field is level, US manufacturing will be on better footing and the folks you seem to despise (who made it possible to elect Trump) will be rewarded... as they should be.
If tariffs are bad, why is it okay for the EU and China to impose them? The question of why we should tolerate this was never answered...
I think I would feel better about what’s happening if there was some sort of written plan the Trump admin was working off of. What’s happening seems to be totally random.